The Electric Vehicle Scam

by | Jan 15, 2022 |

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The utility companies have thus far had little to say about the alarming cost projections to operate electric vehicles (EVs) or the increased rates that they will be required to charge their customers. It is not just the total amount of electricity required⏤but the transmission lines and fast charging capacity that must be built at existing filling stations. Neither wind nor solar can support any of it. Electric vehicles will never become the mainstream of transportation!

In part 1 of our exposé on the problems with electric vehicles (EVs), we showed that they were too expensive, too unreliable, rely on materials mined in China and other unfriendly countries, and require more electricity than the nation can afford. In this second part, we address other factors that will make any sensible reader avoid EVs like the plague.

EV Charging Insanity

In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?

ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:

“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”

The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.

In particular, the latest UK chargers will be pre-set to not function during 9-hours of peak loads, from 8 am to 11 am (3-hours), and 4 pm to 10 pm (6-hours). Unbelievably, the UK technology decides when and if an EV can be charged, and even allows EV batteries to be drained into the UK grid if required. Imagine charging your car all night only to discover in the morning that your battery is flat since the state took the power back. Better keep your gas-powered car as a reliable and immediately available backup! While EV charging will be an attractive source of revenue generation for the government, American citizens will be up in arms.

Used Car Market

The average used EV will need a new battery before an owner can sell it, pricing them well above used internal combustion cars. The average age of an American car on the road is 12 years. A 12-year-old EV will be on its third battery. A Tesla battery typically costs $10,000 so there will not be many 12-year-old EVs on the road. Good luck trying to sell your used green fairy tale electric car! 

Tuomas Katainen, an enterprising Finish Tesla owner, had an imaginative solution to the battery replacement problem—he blew up his car! New York City-based Insider magazine reported (December 27, 2021):

“The shop told him the faulty battery needed to be replaced, at a cost of about $22,000. In addition to the hefty fee, the work would need to be authorized by Tesla…Rather than shell out half the cost of a new Tesla to fix an old one, Katainen decided to do something different… The demolition experts from the YouTube channel Pommijätkät (Bomb Dudes) strapped 66 pounds of high explosives to the car and surrounded the area with slow-motion cameras…the 14 hotdog-shaped charges erupt into a blinding ball of fire, sending a massive shockwave rippling out from the car…The videos of the explosion have a combined 5 million views.”

We understand that the standard Tesla warranty does not cover “damage resulting from intentional actions,” like blowing the car up for a YouTube video. 

EVs Per Block In Your Neighborhood

A home charging system for a Tesla requires a 75-amp service. The average house is equipped with 100-amp service. On most suburban streets the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla. For half the homes on your block to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly overloaded.

Batteries

Although the modern lithium-ion battery is four times better than the old lead-acid battery, gasoline holds 80 times the energy density. The great lithium battery in your cell phone weighs less than an ounce while the Tesla battery weighs 1,000 pounds. And what do we get for this huge cost and weight? We get a car that is far less convenient and less useful than cars powered by internal combustion engines. Bryan Leyland explained why:

“When the Model T came out, it was a dramatic improvement on the horse and cart. The electric car is a step backward into the equivalence of an ordinary car with a tiny petrol tank that takes half an hour to fill. It offers nothing in the way of convenience or extra facilities.”

Our Conclusion

The electric automobile will always be around in a niche market likely never exceeding 10% of the cars on the road. All automobile manufacturers are investing in their output and all will be disappointed in their sales. Perhaps they know this and will manufacture just what they know they can sell. This is certainly not what President Biden or California Governor Newsom are planning for. However, for as long as the present government is in power, they will be pushing the electric car as another means to run our lives. We have a chance to tell them exactly what we think of their expensive and dangerous plans when we go to the polls in November of 2022. 

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Dr. Jay Lehr is a Senior Policy Analyst with the International Climate Science Coalition and former Science Director of The Heartland Institute. He is an internationally renowned scientist, author, and speaker who has testified before Congress on dozens of occasions on environmental issues and consulted with nearly every agency of the national government and many foreign countries. After graduating from Princeton University at the age of 20 with a degree in Geological Engineering, he received the nation’s first Ph.D. in Groundwater Hydrology from the University of Arizona. He later became executive director of the National Association of Groundwater Scientists and Engineers.

Tom Harris is Executive Director of the Ottawa, Canada-based International Climate Science Coalition, and a policy advisor to The Heartland Institute. He has 40 years experience as a mechanical engineer/project manager, science and technology communications professional, technical trainer, and S&T advisor to a former Opposition Senior Environment Critic in Canada’s Parliament.

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Daniel C. Ashley, PhD, PhD
Daniel C. Ashley, PhD, PhD
4 months ago

Also, EVs are at least as polluting as comparable gas powered cars. One of my students did a term paper on that.

Trikkiedikkie
Trikkiedikkie
Reply to  Daniel C. Ashley, PhD, PhD
2 months ago

And that paper was correct? It probably got the student an A+++.

Make sure you do YOUR homework.

Peter Wagner
Peter Wagner
Reply to  Daniel C. Ashley, PhD, PhD
2 months ago

With your student’s permission, can you please post the paper online and provide a link? I’d like to read it.

Joel S. Pomerene
Joel S. Pomerene
4 months ago

So far, NOBODY has recognized the Communists’ long game. This push for electric vehicles is NOT about the environment, global warming or any other such bunk. The push is to eliminate ICE vehicles and go fully electric so that the government can decide who, politically, gets to recharge their vehicles and who doesn’t. Wake up! Nothing currently available can even come close to matching petroleum products’ energy density or versatility for moving people and materiel across the planet.

Silence DoGood
Silence DoGood
Reply to  Joel S. Pomerene
4 months ago

It’s a indirect attack on out 1st Amendment rights to peaceably assemble. Shorten the distance over which we can easily travel, limit out ability to refuel or make it inconvenient to travel at certain times and you restrict our right to meet and communicate and exchange ideas. In an era when the One World Government crowd is becoming increasingly transparent and brazen with its censorship and disinformation in all forms of electronic communication, the ability to meet face-to-face (so there is no doubt as to what is being said, or who is saying it) becomes irreplaceable.

dfwgator
dfwgator
Reply to  Silence DoGood
4 months ago

That comment is as misinformed as this article. EVs range are now surpassing gas and people are even breaking the original cannonball records with EVs.

Sasha
Sasha
Reply to  dfwgator
4 months ago

I believe your comment to be incorrect on a few counts. For Example, the Tesla ‘Long Range’ that did the cannonball run has, I believe a bit over 400 miles as its range. My F150 gets well over 600 miles in range, and is nothing special.

Breaking the original cannonball records isn’t so much an indicator of advances in car technology as advances in the sophistication of runs and communications between the run team, aided as they are these days with spotting planes, cell phones, and real time information.

While I am not knocking electric cars per se, in the main they remain less capable for general use than internal combustion engine vehicles. While this may not always be so, it is still the case today. Electric cars work better for some, and I’m glad people have the option, but I don’t appreciate government putting its thumb on the scales with incentives, or laws calling for internal combustion cars to be phased out, since EVs cannot replace them at this time. If they ever are capable of doing so, the market will reflect that and take care of it. That it is not, even with government choosing sides, is an indication that the EV is not a suitable blanket substitute, and people know this.

I should note that the Tesla that completed the EV Cannonball run record spent a little over 42 hours on its run, 18 of which were spent charging. That means the time spent just in charging the car is only a few hours less than the time the internal combustion run record holder spent going coast to coast.

Smelly Earl
Smelly Earl
Reply to  Sasha
2 months ago

So I think what everyone is forgetting is this is the start of a change in transportation. I own a Tesla Model Y and I will be the first to say there is lots of work to be done. When I get on the highway and hold 80 the wind resistance causes the range to drop considerably. My 303 mile range only would get 180 or so. That sucks. The car costs too much. That sucks.. The battery’s would cost too much to swap out. That sucks. So with all this sucking going on let me tell you what it does well. The entire battery pack costs me about 8 bucks to charge up at home. That rocks! I can drive (city miles) and get 240-260 miles per charge ( If I 100% charge ) using regenerative braking. That rocks! It is faster than my C7 corvette that I dearly love. 3.5 seconds zero to 60 and AWD. I launch perfect every time and not many cars can keep up with me. That rocks! I have a huge screen I can see a map on and help me navigate to my destination. That rocks!. It has sentry cam and records from all the cameras when I park and I can see who messes with the car. You would be surprised. But the thing it did the best was when I had the car on autopilot ( not full self driving ) it caught a deer that was going to jump into my way at night and it reacted faster than I did. It swerved left and saved me and the car from a collision. ( Priceless ) EV’s are not for everyone yet but they are getting better so I would give them a chance. My power does come from the electric company and I do have a garage that I can juice it up while I am sleeping. I have a small solar array that helps lower my bills but its not enough to cover the whole cost of the car charging. I run about 500 to 600 miles a month and my bills has been about 38 to 45 dollars a month more. I use Telsafi.com to track this. I don’t think ICE engines will be around in the future unless they make synthetic fuel that isn’t as bad for the environment.

john stagg
john stagg
Reply to  Smelly Earl
9 days ago

Your dreaming; Those electric cars will wear out and your going to pay 15000 to 20000 dollars for those batteries. Oil will be around for 150 more years while lithium and the rest of the precious metals will be depleted in a few years. That electric car will be to big to use as a paper weight! The government will have the power to fry your computer with EMP’S. I will still be driving my old antiquated pickup long after your EV is melted down for scrape!

Christopher Crowley
Christopher Crowley
Reply to  Joel S. Pomerene
4 months ago

Are you really that stupid? Or do you think everyone else is?

John Robinson.
John Robinson.
Reply to  Joel S. Pomerene
4 months ago

Pick your poison. The average petroleum company received more government subsidies in a week that the entire EV industry to date. You aren’t opposing Communism, you are just fighting for the type you are most comfortable with. I bet you go around thinking you are a patriot too.

David Smith
David Smith
Reply to  John Robinson.
18 days ago

not confiscating all profit as tax is not a “subsidy”

Bob
Bob
Reply to  Joel S. Pomerene
4 months ago

This is the same dance with a different tune that has been going on for decades. Where I live 80% of the transportation tax money is spent on mass transit that 5% of the people use. My 100% liberal commie-run state will not build new roads because that would just lead to more congestion they say. In the next breath, they say that reducing lanes in existing streets and closing other streets will reduce congestion. Do not try to follow the logic of this.

What the plan is is to make it as inconvenient and troublesome as possible to drive your private vehicle, ICE or electric powered to force people to ride mass transit with the homeless who ride it to stay warm. Yes! I’ll send my wife and daughters downtown on the bus, like hell I will.

It is time to tell these politicians that they are there to do the people’s bidding not to decide how we should live and then try to force us to live that way.

ObamasDystopia
ObamasDystopia
Reply to  Joel S. Pomerene
4 months ago

Fuel cell cars can, but they’re some years away – I know, there are prototypes running around, but there’s no H2 infrastructure. They’re also (now) having to ‘reform’ H2 from NG. They are getting very close to generating H2 in better ways.

Last edited 4 months ago by ObamasDystopia
Ostane
Ostane
Reply to  ObamasDystopia
1 month ago

‘It Runs on Water’ documentary

Trikkiedikkie
Trikkiedikkie
Reply to  Joel S. Pomerene
2 months ago

Idiot. Typical GOP drab. Americans are deady afraid of everything, but communists most of all. That is why you like nazi’s so much.

Nazi’s are communists worst enemy. And as the enemy ofyour enemy is your your friend mazi’s are your friend.

john stagg
john stagg
Reply to  Trikkiedikkie
9 days ago

Nazi’s and communists are the same. It all comes down to a corrupt regime enslaving the people for power and money. The democrats and rino republicans are different, they actually are servants of satan who promises them eternal life and wealth. Satan’s goal is to exterminate all those who are against him, white Christians for example. They have a plan to exterminate 90 percent of the world population. Pushing EV’s is just one step closer to their ultimate goal.

Oldpa
Oldpa
Reply to  Joel S. Pomerene
2 months ago

Many of us know their endgame. It is CONTROL & POWER over the people, telling us when, what, where, & how to live our lives.

Peter Wagner
Peter Wagner
Reply to  Oldpa
2 months ago

How do you think the endgame is control people because it’s an EV?

Can you extract your own oil and refine it into gas? No.

But with solar, I’ve been generating well over 100% of my annual electric usage since 2018. And I’ve been driving an EV since 2019. I haven’t paid a penny for electricity or gasoline ever since. So, who is more reliant on energy? Me? or you?

motorman
motorman
Reply to  Oldpa
1 month ago

it is to have forced integration,the liberals dream as they know that is the only way it will happen. that is why they want to place section 8 housing in the suburbs,obama’s dream and everyone will ride the bus because EVs will be too expensive.

Tam
Tam
Reply to  Joel S. Pomerene
20 days ago

This is absurdly wrong. In fact, if you own your house you can have your own “gas station” at home and thereby dramatically enhance your independence from the grid and the government. Put solar on your roof and you can drive on sunshine whenever you want to.

Jim Jelinski
Jim Jelinski
4 months ago

“EV Charging Insanity
In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers”

50 watt chargers?
FIFTY watts? Fifty watts is NOTHING!
Obvious errors like this destroy any confidence the reader has that you MIGHT know what you are talking about!

You later talk about “75 amp service” needed for a home installed charger..
75 amps x 240 Volts is what…..18,000 Watts!

Proofread your article!

BillyBob
BillyBob
Reply to  Jim Jelinski
4 months ago

The “50 watt chargers” should read “50 kilo-watt chargers” (50,000 watts each).

dfwgator
dfwgator
Reply to  Jim Jelinski
4 months ago

Don’t confuse the new luddites with facts.

ttt
ttt
4 months ago

As long as Brandon gets his 10% it will be alright

Christopher Crowley
Christopher Crowley
Reply to  ttt
4 months ago

Brandon Treats TESLA like it doesn’t exist. TESLA is about to blow the doors off the entire automotive industry. Elon treats Brandon like Trump did. you have to hand it to him.

thedeadgene
thedeadgene
4 months ago

We don’t have the technology ‘know how’ to have a nation of EVs, it’s insanity and an attempt to remove individual freedom and usher in totalitarian mass transit for those whose who wear facemasks, and have all their Covid jabs; in a nutshell it is communism on steroids. We must resist Evs unto death or we will become slaves more than we already are.

Wilma
Wilma
4 months ago

Americans will give up their gasoline powered cars about the same time they turn in their guns…….N E V E R.

Leroy Achoy
Leroy Achoy
4 months ago

Having dealt with electric vehicles for over 20 years, I can tell you this: I would NEVER own one.

Battery cost ( huge investment from 35-50% of the value of the vehicle) vs putting fuel in on a daily or weekly basis. Lets use a 2008 Mazda3 a nice one is worth 9k 10 gallons to fill the tank in about 5 minutes $3.50 a gallon $ 35 total and good for a bout 300-350 miles.

The biggest joke is in Primm NV 242 miles from Santa Monica there are 10 Tesla stations.
About 10 miles up the freeway in Jean the gas station has 96 yes that is correct 96 gas pumps.

Trikkiedikkie
Trikkiedikkie
Reply to  Leroy Achoy
2 months ago

How about the US$7 per gallon now?

john stagg
john stagg
Reply to  Trikkiedikkie
9 days ago

The only reason gas is 7.00$ a gallon is because the corrupt democrats have artificially raised the price of gas to force us to buy those 60,000.00 EV’s.

Moosy
Moosy
4 months ago

And then we do not even talk about where the electricity is coming from.

I am actually very happy with EV’s since it allows the coal mines I invest in have their products be used for transportation. I really like those coal fired tesla’s since that is basically what they are.

true, the coal burning is remote but in the end, it is more coal consumption and that is good for my investments. Forward PE will be 2 (that is not a typo, that is 2 ) for one of my mines.

thank you EV’s. And as bonus, my coal burning CO2 will make the planet more green!

Peter Wagner
Peter Wagner
Reply to  Moosy
2 months ago

I got my Tesla not for environmental reasons, but because our solar over-produces so much electricity that it just made sense for us to get an electric car.

But since you mentioned coal… right now around 22% of America’s electricity is generated from coal (funny how eight years ago it was 40%). Coal is being quickly displaced by natural gas, nuclear, and renewables.

You had mentioned CO2 — you should know that mile-for-mile, there isn’t a single state in the United States where charging an EV from the grid creates more CO2 than operating a gas car. Even in West Virginia, the worst offender to using fossil fields to generate electricity (92% coal), it’s still cleaner mile-for-mile to charge an EV from the grid than operate a gas car.

On top of that, EVs pay back their manufacturing carbon debt over time. Gas cars don’t do that — they only add to their carbon debt every second they operate.

So if you are rooting for “more carbon”, then you should know that as EV adoption increases, so will carbon displacement.

tomhoser
tomhoser
4 months ago

Just like everybody might not have the need or want to have, say, a motorcycle, EVs are not for everybody. First of all it has to be a typo as 50W would not charge a load like a car very fast; maybe 50kW? Second, most people use their EVs for commuting and vegetable shopping so they just charge them at home during sleep or netflix hours. It’s nice not having to cue up for gas, very convenient. Lastly most relatively modern houses have a 200Amp. single phase service which should be plenty to charge a car, and anyone who has any solar can further offset any power costs directly before any metering schemes.

Tesla
Tesla
4 months ago

I’m not arguing for EV’s. But I am arguing against blatant disinformation.

I leased a Tesla S for 3 years and drove it 45,000 mile. My maintenance costs were $0. I was not even charged for new tires when I turned it in with the originals.

The battery showed less than 5% loss of capacity, after having been used in a harsh climate.

Your statement regarding a 12 year Tesla needing 3 batteries during that period is absurd, and it seems, intentionally misleading. If not, please provide some data or ink to such. I other wise call BS on your BS.

Christopher Crowley
Christopher Crowley
Reply to  Tesla
4 months ago

Its FUD plain and simple. TESLA is dominating.

Jahnn
Jahnn
Reply to  Tesla
4 months ago

I believe climate has affect on batteries if I’m not mistaken. Though it can very possibly be on a different kind than lithium ion. But I remember hearing somewhere that cold climate reduces battery life. I very well could be wrong though so don’t take my word as law.

mopow
mopow
4 months ago

I’ve owned an EV for over a year and have visited a charging station less than a handful of times. EVs, for most owners, are charged at home overnight during low demand hours. This article is non-sense for the most part.

EdS
EdS
Reply to  mopow
4 months ago

Well goody goody on you but if you want one, pay for it, don’t have the government subsidize it or demand everyone has it at the expense of losing gasoline vehicles. It should be a choice but the Marxists want to eliminate gas powered vehicles; the greenies love it as they say keep the oil in the ground and yet never give a THOUGHT to the Lithium for the EV batteries which is MINED out of the ground.

Furthermore, China has practically a lock on Lithium, the greenies in the U.S. don’t want us to mine and just recently Trudeau basically handed over Canada’s Lithium to China. Sounds like a monopoly to me.

You really think China cares what the EV owners think when push comes to shove and they get into one of their power control moves to stifle individual freedom?

motorman
motorman
Reply to  mopow
1 month ago

what about all these cars i see parked on city streets and the owner lives in an apartment or rented home. all people will need to use a charging station. greater than 50% of car owners have no access to home charging

Notmypresident
Notmypresident
4 months ago

Ford is on a rampage to produce all electric F-150 trucks. There is currently a back order for customers breathlessly waiting the new shiny object dangling on the stick. But before you rush out and plop down your deposit it might be best to think this through. If you are one to use your truck to lets say go off road and haul a trailer with your motocross motorcycles into the back country, how do you plan to get back? Your trip will consume most of your charge. Hauling a trailer with your truck fully loaded will reduce your mileage by 50%…Ford won’t tell you this..try to find this info in the sales brochure. So once you arrive at your favored remote fishing spot how do you plan to recharge your truck? I’m guessing you brought a generator…but wait CA is outlawing gas powered generators. So it’s solar right. So now I’m guessing you planned on making your trip into the back country about week long stay–right? Because that’s how long its going to take to recharge your truck with a solar generator. You know there use to be a moniker for Ford in the old days…Found On the Road Dead. I expect we’ll find many of these shiny new electric Ford trucks in that state littering the back roads.

motorman
motorman
Reply to  Notmypresident
1 month ago

these trucks are being built for people who haul air in the bed most of the time

bob
bob
4 months ago

they’ll do with cars exactly what they did with the light bulb. phase the new ones in while phasing the old one out and when there are enough in the market they will make the gas powered cars illegal. just as they completely destroyed a light bulb that was useable and cheap and replaced it with a much more expensive one, the same thing will happen to the automobile.

jake
jake
4 months ago

No gas station runs 2000 cars in 12 hours. They just aren’t that busy.

thorium kid
thorium kid
3 months ago

?. Where will we get all the electricity required to go totally electric for Transportation (cars, trucks, . airplanes, ships,) heating and air conditioning in homes, hotels etc, the manufacturing , mining and production of material ( steel, aluminum, copper , rear earths, cement, wood etc.,), agriculture ( fertilizers, farm equipment food processing , water desalination etc.,. -AUTOMOBILES USE IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

SOLAR AND WIND WON’T CUT IT – unreliable, expensive, high maintenance, large land use requirements and collection grids, storage etc. Batteries are expensive and use massive amounts of rare materials – Rare earths , copper, steel for tower, cement, hydrocarbons for plastic for turbine blades etc. and require sufisticated and expensive recycling cost.

The answer is LIQUIDTHORIUM FLORIDE SALT nuclear reactors-.LFTR ( LOOK IT UP ON U TUBE ) PROVEN, SAFE, cheap, production line manufactured, can use and eliminate present nuclear waste and eliminates long life disposal of nuclear waste, – 200 TIMES more efficient than present uranium water cooled reactors and produces isotopes for medicine etc, but no weapons grade materiel Many more benefits such as not requiring water so can be operated in areas with no lakes or rivers, thousands of years of readily available supply.
This reactor technology was developed in the US in the 50s but ( ran a reactor for 3 years) and then shelved.
Inventor of the present reactor tech- (Alvin Weinberg) though the liquid salt reactor was better technology.

Cost competitive CARBON NEUTRAL hydrocarbons (GASOLINE, DIESEL, JET FUEL, NATURAL GAS, etc.,.
– can be produced with CO2 being captured from the atmosphere or water ( ALREADY BEING DONE
to reduce atmospheric CO 2by burying back in the ground)
_ CO2 is combined with Hydrogen electrically to make POLLUTION free hydrocarbons (free of
impurities that cause polution ( no sulfur , lead etc.) -and the fuel produced is more energy dense
than those presently used.

These reactors with associated fuel producing facilities can be locatde close to the area using the fuel thus reducing the requirement for present Electrical grids, power lines, that are also needed for solar and wind generation power collection…
Also eliminates the transportation of crude oils etc. from around the world ( ELIMINATES ALL THOSE FUEL HUGRY TANKERS AND PIPELINES) , thus reducing the overall energy requirement.
ELIMINATES RELIANCE ON FOREIGN OIL AND GAS ( MID EAST OIL AND RUSSIAN OIL) THUS
ALSO CONFLICTS.
No Batteries or storage facilities for storing electricity are required, present simple storage of hydrocarbons presently utilized are used as well as distribution methods.

THIS CAN BE DONE NOW WITHOUT

  • changing present modes of transport, Heating , etc. were hydrocarbons are used.
  • Present energy distribution systems can be used – no new of improved systems are required (Power lines, charging stations, storage facilities, etc) .and can be phased in to present systems as the synthetic fuel is produced.
  • Use of limited Natural resources reduced.
  • Adequate power for electric cars, buses etc. that are economical, competitive or convenient. .

The development of portable electrical devises have advantage in areas were convenience is beneficial, or where economically competitive (local delivery vehicles, where CO2 can accumulate and be hazardous, Etc.) or where solar or wind power is easier to make than grid type power..

Note-
– US considering making jet fuel on their nuclear powered aircraft carriers that make lots of electrical power, from CO2 and hydrogen from the ocean and eliminate 2 tankers for each one that supply the fuel which is transferred on board about every 3 days making them self sufficient and saving about $4-5 a gallon. This is better fuel than they currently use , more energy per gallon and andthey extend the life of the engines because of the absence of impurities in the fuel.
-the Chinese are building these reactors (500 engineers working on them ) for commercial use and for naval ships and subs the can have 2x the power fro 10% of the space and used and 10% of the weight of present naval reactors.The subs will be 2 times faster submerged than US surface ships.

Here ends the problem solving lesson.
ALL IT WILL TAKE IS SOME FAR SIGHTED SMART POLITICIANS TO SAVE THE WORLD ,
CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW THIS WOULD CHANGE THE WORLD.

.

thorium kid
thorium kid
2 months ago

The future will be –Thorium floride molton salt reactors – clean, SAFE, cheap,good for hundreds of cenuries(look up LFTR on Utube – this is 70 year old technology invented by the USA and now being built in China. (see all the benifits associated with them- Isotopes , eliminating radio active waste etc.)
These reactors will provide power to plants that captur CO2 from the air and combine it with hydogen from water to make carbon nutral fuel that is clean( no polutants like sulphur , lead, etc). This is being done now- A Carbon capture plant in British Columbia Canada capture enough CO2 to make fuel for 250.000 cars.
Result is cheap high grade fuel in the form of Jet fuel, diesel, gasoling, natural gas that can be utilized in our present infostructure at ZERO cost versus upgradeing power distribution system and building chaging stations. Also the requiremnet for millions of tons of copper, lithium, steel, plastic, and land, etc. to construct windmills, solar plant, etc. is eliminated.
There are some areas were electric powered transportation is preferable and will be used such as lighting, some delivery vehicles, short distance transportation etc. etc. etc. were it is economical and convenient but power will still come from new technology reactor.
The Chinese are spending mayor dollars on developing these reactor and will use them in their Naval ships and sub (the are 90% lighter and smaller than present naval reactors and will produce subs that are twice as fast underwater as present surface ship like sub hunters,
The US is going to replace 2 tankers used for each nuclear aircraft carrier to supply jet fuel with onboard Carbon capture plant (CO2 dissolved in seawater ) from the ocean and make jet fuel on board thus making the aircraft carrier independent of any land supply requirements.Atomic powered carriers have lots of electricity available and the jet fuel is of a higher grade (higher octane) and clean which in turn improves the life of the jet engines.
This can happen now
Imagine all the countries being able to produce their own energy – would there be any wars. It would be a major basic change in society equal to the industrial revolution, the development of the internal combustion engine, Radio or the electrification.
This would also reduce poverty in the world.
Thorium is plentiful and is presently a waiste reburied during the mining of rare earths which makes the mining of the mineral expensive and the market cornered by China.

william papke
william papke
4 months ago

The average house is equipped with 200 amp service.

JMWinPR
JMWinPR
4 months ago

Years ago they had a “Mr. Reactor” in the back of a deLorean. I’m certain they have been improved since then. Of course if you connect Mr. Reactor to a “TurboEncabulator ” you can power your entire block. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag

Christopher Crowley
Christopher Crowley
4 months ago

My Model 3 Performance will be here next week! I can hardly wait. I found the FUD that this article attempts to spread hysterical. After having the matrix exposed by President Donald Trump, I see through it. If you never stop to investigate you will never be informed. Elon is the GOAT!!

Wilma
Wilma
4 months ago

I’m guessing Americans will give up their gasoline-powered cars right about the same time they give up their guns.

Mike
Mike
2 months ago

This says “600 50-Watt” when it should say “600 50Kw”. It’s only off by a factor of 1000.

Trikkiedikkie
Trikkiedikkie
2 months ago

I have a really nice diesel Merc, and a really nice electric Merc. Anything shorter than 100 miles one way I will drive the electric.The electricity is free from my solar panels. Cheap driving.

Peter Wagner
Peter Wagner
2 months ago

So, if (according to you):

A 12-year-old EV will be on its third battery.

Can you please explain how this is possible when all EVs sold in the United States are required to have a minimum 8 year, 100 thousand mile warranty? Some Teslas come with a 8 year, 150 thousand mile warranty.

L Jen
L Jen
28 days ago

I’m a salesperson in the automotive industry. I call on body shops, repair shops and dealerships.
One of my body shop customers had an EV car in for a bumper repair. Very minor repair, except he noticed a crack in the battery casing. The insurance company totaled the car for salvage because they would not pay for a battery replacement. DON”T crash your EV….it can catch on fire, electrocute you or EMS unless disconnected. The weight of the battery, 2 ton, wears out standard tires 4 times faster than gas cars. Tire industry is developing sold rubber tires.
What happens when you have 3 or 4 family members needing to charge their car at night? Will your house or neighborhood have power overload and blackouts???????

The dealerships have a special area to work on only EV cars. Requires 2 workers on each car in case one gets electrocuted the other can pull them off with a hook. They must wear special shock proof gloves that expire every 6 months or earlier.
On a street of 25 homes, there is only enough power on the grid to charge 3 cars.

Cold weather and super chargers reduce the life of the battery.
What will you do when your charge runs out on the interstate or there is a pile up and your stranded for hours?
Your gasoline tax is used to road maintenance, get ready for more tax for mileage.
Just a few ideas to think about……..do your research before spending your money.

Tam
Tam
20 days ago

What an absurd piece. Every argument is demonstrably wrong if you’d done even a little research.

Hojczyk
Hojczyk
4 months ago

50watt charges are only required for supercharging. Most people can use overnight charging at their home which can slow charge off a typical plug a d have less draw than most appliances. This is a bs argument made on false assumptions of the most extreme.

Red Wave Dave
Red Wave Dave
Reply to  Hojczyk
4 months ago

You mean 50 AMP chargers at home. Yeah many power grids don’t have the reserve to deal with lots of EV. Gotta love that wind power in summer. Bhuuuhahahaaaa.

JMWinPR
JMWinPR
Reply to  Hojczyk
4 months ago

A 50 Watt charger is used for laptops. You have no idea of watt you are talikin ’bout

Peanuts
Peanuts
Reply to  JMWinPR
4 months ago

Watt????? He was referencing “amps”, not watts!!!!!!

John Robinson.
John Robinson.
4 months ago

If you look up the biographies of the authors you can tell why they are so misinformed. Neither has any experience in any field even slightly related to this. Dr Lehr specializes in hydrology for example. Both work for the Heartland Institute which is primarily funded by the petroleum industry and has been outed many times for spreading blatant misinformation on this topic as well as others.

dfwgator
dfwgator
4 months ago

What a bunch of old boomer freeper luddites. I’m surprised they are on the internet and still don’t think it is just a passing fad.

Last edited 4 months ago by dfwgator
Wilma
Wilma
Reply to  dfwgator
4 months ago

If you are lucky, someday YOU, too, will grow old. But with your smart mouth, I doubt it.

Brian
Brian
4 months ago

This article is so bad I am losing respect for America out loud! The authors did not research this. Seems like a spin piece. If they think electric cars are going to be niche at 10% they are totally delusional. Plus they have 350 W chargers now. Most people charge the car up at home and never go to a supercharger only on trips. Electric cars have no maintenance And are better in every single metric. Battery prices are coming down and they’ll be cheaper to buy in the first place too. Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris Are either evil payed off shills or complete morons. So disappointed in America out loud and now have to question every other article with a grain of salt. Auto manufacturers have an insane demand for electric cars like they’ve never ever experienced before, so no they will not be disappointed in sales. And you really mentioned Joe Biden! Joe Biden disgraced himself with Mary Barra with lies and corruption.

old farta
old farta
Reply to  Brian
4 months ago

Please address the space requirements at service areas, and the overloading of the neighborhood grid.

DontFearTheRona
DontFearTheRona
Reply to  old farta
4 months ago

I think Brian did address the service station space requirements … The vast majority of EV owners will charge at home … That’s the whole point and that is the convenience factor. So you don’t need to handle nearly as many vehicles at service stations in a given area. The community electric supply is a bigger issue, but as others have pointed out, most people will charge overnight and therefore do not need the 75-amp chargers, and even if they do use them they will do so for short periods of time, thus leaving more time for others in the neighborhood to do their charging. No question that it will require more electric utility infrastructure, but the change will not happen overnight and enterprising businessmen will figure out how to generate and distribute the power. The big problem I see with EV’s (and it’s also a growing problem with ICE vehicles as well) is the increasing level of government surveillance and control, due to the amount of high tech gadgetry in these vehicles. Convenience comes at a price, and unfortunately the younger generation, having been raised on mobile connected devices, don’t seem to recognize what that price is.

Zadymauusa
Zadymauusa
Reply to  DontFearTheRona
4 months ago

Good luck.California has no electricity for AC in the summer.

Darren
Darren
Reply to  Brian
4 months ago

Wow…I assume you own one. Enjoy the battery swap fee. I believe in freedom so if you want one then go buy one but don’t take away my choices. I’m interested to see what happens the next time there is a mass evacuation for a hurricane and all the EV cars start running out of power. No thank you. I’ll keep my gas powered car. If I can no longer get gas I’ll power it with alcohol or propane. Either are better than an EV to me.

Woodie thompson
Woodie thompson
Reply to  Brian
4 months ago

I. Know far too little o the subject to comment deeply. What tha article does for meis generate a multitude of questions . So ev maintenance slight , doesn’t mean non existent , surely. There are moving parts doesn’t that require lubricant. Batteries are expensive maybe less in the future but still requiring disposal . Where at what cost , environmental or otherwise ? What is the average cost to operate an ev for say 3 yrs. compared to combustible ? Some of you guys I’m sure can offer reasonable answers I’d appreciate it if you care to do so. Thankyou

Mr.Charles ANTHONY
Mr.Charles ANTHONY
4 months ago

This ‘story’ is bought and payed for by your Local Oil Company. Aside from his questionable ‘credentials’ and related; this is pure hysteria, and from someone who owns a huge, gas guzzler of an ICE car, and has his job pay the gas bill. And I own an EV and did the actual research

EdS
EdS
Reply to  Mr.Charles ANTHONY
4 months ago

You obviously think electricity grows on trees. Just last summer California demanded people refrain from charging their vehicles during the drought and rolling blackouts; meaning that electricity was in HIGH demand.

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